updated : 16th feb, 2009
After some more research on the initial suppositions in the following article below, I have to say that the assumptions contained below written by various sources might very well be erroneous. Much of the claims below are from the work of a 'P.N.Oak' whose work has been rejected amongst mainstream academic circles. Much of his claims seem to be based on similar sounding words found in Indian and other cultures. On this basis, he claims that that which these words refer to serve as proof of India being the originator of such phenomena. That is nothing but a logical fallacy. It could very well be that the reason why similar sounding words may be found in different cultures is that one or the other may have originated these words. However, this does not necessarily allow us to conclude that that which these words refer to originated in the country originating these words. Putting it simply, if two countries call an apple by similar sounding names, and country A originated this word, that would not mean that country A is the origin of the 'apple'. It can just mean that country A is the originator of the language and not necessarily the fruit. And as Sanskrit is an Indo-European language, it would not be surprising to find similar sounding words and names from India to London. So if 'P.N.Oak' hopes to validate the claim that India is the originator of Islam or the papacy, he will require more than just the similarity of words to do so. Failing to do so, and the absence of supportive works by other historians, such works can be discounted.
ed
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Muhammad belonged to the Qurayshi Tribe of Mecca.
The Qurayshi were particularly devoted to Goddess Alla (Durga) and the famous
Shivling of the Kaaba Temple. The
fact that the Shivling remains to this day in the Kaaba is solely due to the
fact that it happened to be the Qurayshi tribe's faceless Family Deity.
Muhammad's name itself came from Mahadeva, which is another cognate for Lord
Shiva. Muhammad's own uncle, Umar-Bin-E-Hassham was a staunch Hindu and fervent
devotee of Lord Shiva. He was a renowned poet and wrote many verses in praise
of Shiva. One of these has survived on page 235 of Sair-Ul-Okul and reads as
follows:
Kafavomal fikra min ulumin Tab asayru
Kaluwan amataul Hawa was Tajakhru
We Tajakhayroba udan Kalalwade-E Liboawa
Walukayanay jatally, hay Yauma Tab asayru
Wa Abalolha ajabu armeeman MAHADEVA
Manojail ilamuddin minhum wa sayattaru
Wa Sahabi Kay-yam feema-Kamil MINDAY Yauman
Wa Yakulum no latabahan foeennak Tawjjaru
Massayaray akhalakan hasanan Kullahum
Najumum aja- at Summa gabul HINDU
which translates as:
The man who may spend his life in sin
and irreligion or waste it in lechery and wrath
If at least he relent and return to
righteousness can he be saved?
If but once he worship Mahadeva with a pure
heart, he will attain the ultimate in spirituality.
Oh Lord Shiva exchange my entire life for but
a day's sojourn in India
where one attains salvation.
But one pilgrimage there secures for one all merit and company of the truly great.
Muhammad's uncle was one of the resident priests of the Shiv temple known as "Kaaba". This sacred sanctum was decorated in an extremely rich and beautiful fashion. The Kaaba was astronomically oriented to face the winds. The minor axis of the rectangular base of the Kaaba was solistically aligned towards summer sunrise and winter sunset. It contained 360 statues of Vedic deities and was a shrine primarily associated with sun worship. The temple was an architectural representation of an interlocking set of theories covering virtually all creation and comprehending chemistry, physics, cosmology, meteorology and medicine. Each wall or corner of the Kaaba was associated with a specific region of the world. Thus this glorious Hindu temple was made to symbolically represent a microcosm of the universe. The Arabs would face east when praying. This representation of a microcosm demonstrated by the eight directional structure was derived from the Tantric pattern of Hinduism. Right at the centre of the Kaaba was the octogonal pedestal of Bramha the creator.
Today this very pedestal is called Maqam-E-Ibrahim by the Muslims.
However, more significant was the fact that the Kaaba was an extremely rich and ornate temple. On its walls hung innumerable gold plaques commemorating the winners of the annual poetry competition known as the Okaj fair. There were gold, silver and precious gems everywhere. It is no wonder that Muhammad armed with his facade of a new brand of religion set out to capture the immense wealth of the Vedic shrine of Mecca. After plundering the riches of the Kaaba, the wealth enabled him to systematically destroy all traces of the religion that threatened him so directly. It is an indisputable fact that money will make any low criminal devoutly religious in a hurry.
Despite the fact that Muhammad had to destroy all traces of Hinduism in order
to make his "new religion" work, he knew that he would had to borrow
from the Vedic culture that surrounded him.
Muhammad destroyed all 360 idols, but even he could not summon the courage to
completely obliterate the Shivling in the Kaaba. He entered the temple and
kissed the black stone. The Shivling was so sacred that the man who so detested
idol- worship ended up kissing the largest idol in the Kaaba. Later his
followers in a fit of piety broke the Shivling and then out of remorse
repatched it together again. Today it lies broken at seven places and held
together by a silver band studded with silver nails, bearing the name
"Sangey Aswad" which came from the Sanskrit Ashwet meaning non-white
or black stone.
He jumbled up the Sanskrit words Nama and Yaja (which meant "bowing and worshipping" respectively) into a combination word Namaz and used that to describe his prescribed method of prayer.
In fact the rise of Islam put a full stop to all the previous knowledge of Arabia. The imperialistic message of Islam diverted all energies into raiding, looting and destruction. The incentive to learn and preserve the Vedic wisdom that had thrived in Arabia for so many centuries, was wiped out by the brutal pressure of Islam. Making easy money through loot and massacre was far more appealing than upholding the tenets of ancient knowledge. Gone were the schools, teachers, libraries, poets, artists, philosophers and scholars that had littered the Vedic landscape of Arabia like stars. Everyone had to become a raider if not from choice then for the sake of surviving the absolute intolerance of dissenters, that Islam preached. Thus was the light of learning extinguished in Arabia.
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Additionally,
Said a 'Dr Sharma'
"As you are aware,
that al-Quran (Koran) states that knowledge is the lost property of the
believer and he should gather it wherever he can. So what I am about to relay
to you is enlightening and already known to true scholars of Islam. However if
you are a faithful Muslim then it will be a revelation which will change your
entire outlook on the world and Islam. Feel free to forward this testimony to
your fellow brethren.
A recent archaeological find in Kuwait unearthed a gold-plated statue of the Hindu deity Ganesh. A Muslim resident of Kuwait requested historical research material that can help explain the connection between Hindu civilisation and Arabia. Glancing through some research material recently, I was pleasantly surprised to come across a reference to a King Vikramaditya inscription found in the Kaaba in Mecca proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a part of his Indian Empire.
The text of the crucial Vikramaditya inscription, found inscribed on a gold
dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, is found recorded on page 315 of a
volume known as 'Sayar-ul-Okul' treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in
Istanbul, Turkey. Rendered in simple English the inscription says:
"Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during king Vikram's reign.
He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects.
Nevertheless, at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual
pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had
enveloped our country. As the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of
a wolf us Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped
in darkness as intense as on a new moon night. However, the present dawn and
pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favour of the noble king
Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us- foreigners
as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose
brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars
and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognisant of
the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of
Truth had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at
King Vikramaditya's behest."
If you would like to read the Arabic wording, I reproduce it hereunder in Roman script:
"Itrashaphai Santu Ibikramatul Phahalameen Karimun Yartapheeha Wayosassaru Bihillahaya Samaini Ela Motakabberen Sihillaha Yuhee Quid min howa Yapakhara phajjal asari nahone osirom bayjayhalem. Yundan blabin Kajan blnaya khtoryaha sadunya kanateph netephi bejehalin Atadari bilamasa- rateen phakef tasabuhu kaunnieja majekaralhada walador. As hmiman burukankad toluho watastaru hihila Yakajibaymana balay kulk amarena phaneya jaunabilamary Bikramatum".
A careful analysis of the above inscription enables us to draw the following conclusions:
1. That the ancient Indian empires may have extended up to the eastern
boundaries of Arabia until Vikramaditya and that it was he who for the first
time conquered Arabia.
Because the inscription says that king Vikram who dispelled the darkness of
ignorance from Arabia.
2. That, whatever their earlier faith, King Vikrama's preachers had succeeded
in spreading the Vedic (based on the Vedas, the Hindu sacred scriptures)) way
of life in Arabia.
3. That Indians to the Arabs imparted the knowledge of Indian arts and sciences
directly by founding schools, academies and cultural centres. The belief,
therefore, that visiting Arabs conveyed that knowledge to their own lands
through their own indefatigable efforts and scholarship is unfounded.
Having seen the far reaching and history shaking implications of the Arabic
inscription concerning king Vikrama, we shall now piece together the story of
its find. How it came to be recorded and hung in the Kaaba in Mecca.
What are the other proofs reinforcing the belief that Arabs were once followers
of the Indian Vedic way of life and that tranquillity and education were
ushered into Arabia
by king Vikramaditya's scholars, educationists from an uneasy period of
"ignorance and turmoil" mentioned in the inscription.
In Istanbul, Turkey,
there is a famous library called Makhatab-e-Sultania, which is reputed to have
the largest collection of ancient West Asian literature. In the Arabic, section
of that library is an anthology of ancient Arabic poetry. That anthology was
compiled from an earlier work in A.D. 1742 under the orders of the Turkish
ruler Sultan Salim.
The collection is regarded as the most important and authoritative anthology of ancient Arabic poetry. It throws considerable light on the social life, customs, manners and entertainment modes of ancient Arabia. The book also contains an elaborate description of the ancient shrine of Mecca, the town and the annual fair known as OKAJ, which used to be held every year around the Kaaba temple in Mecca. This should convince readers that the annual HAJ of the Muslims to the Kaaba is of earlier pre-Islamic congregation.
However, the OKAJ fair was far from a carnival. It provided a forum for the
elite and the learned to discuss the social, religious, political, literary and
other aspects of the Vedic culture then pervading Arabia. 'Sayar-ul-Okul' asserts that the
conclusion reached at those discussions was widely respected throughout Arabia. Mecca
, therefore, followed the Varanasi
tradition (of India)
of providing a venue for important discussions among the learned while the
masses congregated there for spiritual bliss. The principal shrines at both Varanasi in India and at Mecca in Arvasthan (Arabia) were Shiva temples. Even to this day
ancient Mahadev (Shiva) emblems can be seen. It is the Shankara (Shiva) stone
that Muslim pilgrims reverently touch and kiss in the Kaaba - black stone
(al-Hajar-ul-Aswad).
Arabic tradition has lost trace of the founding of the Kaaba temple. The
discovery of the Vikramaditya inscription affords a clue. King Vikramaditya is
known for his great devotion to Lord Mahadev (Shiva). At Ujjain ( India),
the capital of Vikramaditya, exists the famous shrine of Mahakal, i.e., of Lord
Shankara (Shiva) associated with Vikramaditya. Since according to the
Vikramaditya inscription he spread the Vedic religion, who else but he could
have founded the Kaaba temple in Mecca?
A few miles away from Mecca
is a big signboard that bars the entry of any non-Muslim into the area. This is
a reminder of the days when the Kaaba was stormed and captured solely for the
newly established faith of Islam. The object in barring entry of non-Muslims
was obviously to prevent its recapture.
As the pilgrim proceeds towards Mecca,
he is asked to shave his head and beard and to don special sacred attire that
consists of two seamless sheets of white cloth. One is to be worn round the
waist and the other over the shoulders. Both these rites are remnants of the
old Vedic practice of entering Hindu temples clean- and with holy seamless
white sheets.
The main shrine in Mecca, which houses
the Shiva emblem, the black stone (al-Hajar-ul-Aswad) and the entire cuboidal
structure, is known as the Kaaba (from Sanskrit Garbha). It is clothed in a
black shroud. That custom also originates from the days when it was thought
necessary to discourage its recapture by camouflaging it.
See image http://www.stephen-knapp.com/art_photo_one.htm
According to the Encyclopaedia Britannica, the Kaaba has 360 images.
Traditional accounts mention that one of the deities among the 360 destroyed
when the place was stormed was that of Saturn; another was of the Moon and yet
another was one called Allah. That shows that in the Kaaba the Arabs worshipped
the nine planets in pre-Islamic days. In India
the practice of 'Navagraha' puja, that is worship of the nine planets, is still
in vogue. Two of these nine are Saturn and Moon.
In India,
the crescent moon is always painted across the forehead of the Shiva symbol.
Since that symbol was associated with the Shiva emblem in Kaaba it came to be
grafted on the flag of Islam.
Another Hindu tradition associated with the Kaaba is that of the sacred stream
Ganga (sacred waters of the Ganges River ).
According to the Hindu tradition, Ganga
is also inseparable from the Shiva emblem as the crescent moon. Wherever there
is a Shiva emblem, Ganga
must co-exist. True to that association, a sacred fount exists near the Kaaba.
Its water is held sacred because it has been traditionally regarded as Ganga since pre-Islamic times (Zam-Zam
water).
[Note: Even today, Muslim pilgrims who go to the Kaaba for Haj regard this
Zam-Zam water with reverence and take some bottled water with them as sacred
water.]
Muslim pilgrims visiting the Kaaba temple go around it seven times. In no other
mosque does the circumambulation (tawaf) prevail. Hindus invariably
circumambulate around their deities. This is yet another proof that the Kaaba
shrine is a pre-Islamic Indian Shiva temple where the Hindu practice of
circumambulation is still meticulously observed.
Since "Makha" means fire, the seven circumambulations also prove that
Mecca was the
seat of Indian fire-worship in the West
Asia as even now the sacred fire (havan/makha/yajna)
is circled by Hindus SEVEN times. Pilgrims (hajjis) endeavour to touch or even
kiss the black stone (Shiva linga-emblem of Shiva) and the tribe of the Prophet
Mohammed, the Qureshis are the custodians of the this black stone and tend to
it daily and apply scented oil to it.
It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word 'ALLAH' itself is
Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka. Ilah and Amba are synonyms. They
signify a goddess or mother. The term 'ALLAH' forms part of Sanskrit chants
invoking goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Parvati (Illa). The name of the
consort of the mother goddess is Shiva, since ancient times known as Il. The
Islamic word for God is therefore, not an innovation but the ancient Sanskrit
appellation retained and continued by Islam. Allah means mother goddess and
Shiva. (Il + Illah= Allah).
Finally, rather than denigrate any other faith, try to see the commonality between all faiths. The Shiva lingam cannot be understood through rudimentary logic and your crude references to women mounting it for fertility is repugnant (just as the kissing of the black stone by faithful hajjis as representing the male organ). Shiva linga (Shiva emblem/sign) represents the regenerative aspect (Shiva) of the Almighty. We are all the creation of the universal being and all faiths are paths to the same destination, the sooner we agree on this matter, the better for all humanity.
Wishing you a peaceful and enlightening new year.
Khuda-hafis (peace be with you)"
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source
Reply to Ed's post--
Ed, you said ''After some more research on the initial suppositions in the following article below''. However you didnot elaborate on your sources and references.
Prof Ok is certainly not well known and it might be true that mainstream academic circles not taken this research seriously.But Prof Ok has given reference from quite known book 'Sayar-ul-Okul'
Posted by: Vikram | 02/25/2009 at 12:11 AM
Hello Vikram,
Well, according to various sources, including 'wiki', 'Professor' Oak isn't actually a 'professor'. But, if a person has the relevant education, albeit via self-education, i suppose it would be alright for her/im to call her/imself a 'professor'. But that is for another discussion.
I just wonder why mainstream academicians may have discounted his findings. The few criticisms i have found do state my discussed issues with his findings.
I would assume that a finding such as that claimed by Oak would have at least some mainstream sources to verify it or at least discuss it. However, till the time of this writing, i have yet to come across mainstream discussions of the alleged finding, the 'Saya-ul-Okul', etc.
All the information i have found to date with regards to the 'finding' starts off with the same paragraphs, etc. It seems that all the various sites including this information are simply 'copy-and-paste' articles of P.N.Oak's writings.
ed
Posted by: ed | 02/25/2009 at 05:24 AM
[this is good]
Dear Friends,
Its all so confusing,whether you believe in GOD or not,doesnt matter till you stop killing innocent women and children in the name of GOD,
I HAVE NOT READ HOLY QURAN NOR ANY RELIGIOUS BOOK BUT HAVE ALWAYS HELPED THE NEADY AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT IF GOD IS THERE TELLS US ,
I THINK THAT IS ALL HE WANTS US TO BECOME,LEST WE BECOME HINDUS,MUSLIMS,CRISTIANS,OR ANY OTHER RELIGION,
ONLY ONE QUESTION TO ALL ,WHY DO IN ALL THE RELIGION WE LOOK UP AND PRAY,WHY?????THINK,
WE ARE ONE NO RELIGION,THESE RELIGION WERE MADE BY US AND NOT GOD,
HE ONLY WANTED TO MAKE US HUMAN AND NOT ANIMALS LIKE WE HAVE MADE OURSELF TODAY,
THANKS TO ALL THE LEARNED PEOPLE,
BYE...........................
Posted by: amit | 03/29/2009 at 02:47 PM
[this is good]
That`s why some people said: -
Less Knowledge is Always Dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes there were 360 or so statues in Kaaba, but the stone now there is Koh-et-ur.
Some statues were stolen rest were demolished.
So before we gave some strong statements like this we should check it properly.
Its good to go deep in every Holy Book.
I appreciate Dr.Sharma`s efforts but he need to go a little deep more in this than only he can come out with the facts of statues.
Posted by: Yasir | 10/14/2009 at 11:48 AM
Poor Dr.Sharma
I think research is not your field so you better leave it for the "True Researchers"
"Jis ka kaam usi ko Saajhe"
and please have a mental check up before writing any further on this Topic.
Posted by: Ahmed | 01/24/2010 at 08:21 PM
Hindu religion is d oldest in d world and it has no founder. Then came d other religions with all due respect.Now, its quite logical to say that there must be some sort of connections with Hindu religion.Its like Science and Technology.Technology is d application of science.Hinduism is d science here.The bottom line is, all religions should be respected because we convey our love to GOD and if all people with their respective religion can be united and strive for a common goal, and that is to gain God's blessings, we will SEE GOD.
Posted by: dino | 02/20/2010 at 10:12 AM
Hi Ahmed,
I am a history student. Arabia was under king Vikrama in around 320 AD. By that time there no concept of Allah or Islam. Islam was started from the existing religions such as Christianity and Hinduisam which are two major religions by that time.
Many temples in Asia are demolished and converted into mosques or our holy places. We should accept the fact that Islam is a piracy version of Shivisim.
Posted by: Ali muhammud | 03/28/2010 at 09:28 PM
Dear Yasir,
The analysis done by Sharma is almost correct.
Lord is one and he is accpeting the worships in the name of Allah or Jesus...Before both of them born on earth..the old god is Shiva..term came from nature..you can observe the thing that all words from earth are derived from
"OMH" which is a praying term for Shiva...
I believe in Allah..but from history point Hinduisam is th eoldest religion which dont need any introduction or advertisement.
The religions which came after hinduisam have tried a lot for survival..Christianity and Islam are some of them
In my point Hinduisam= Islam+Buddisam+Jainisam+Sikihisam+Shaivism+Vaishanavisam+etc
The Islamic kings were very rude enough to spread islam and demolished and converted many Hindu temples across Asia. History tells you this fact.
Islam is the only religion which is doing so much violation for its propagation.
We are the people .we even not following the population control terms also in any country
What do you say..Hindus and Christians are wise enough and are civilised .So they are not showing much interest on Propagation instead they are showing much interest on humanity.
Just see..Islamic countries are there but No hindu countries..they are democratic countires..
In our Pakisthan...Only Muslim is eligable for Prime minister and president.
But in All Hindu countries even Muslims also enjoyed president roles.
Just try to respect Dr.Sharma's analysis..
Think Practical. Islam started after 600 AD but far before that Aryans came,Ashoka ,Vikramaditya ruled the vast empire from Egypt to India where Hinduisam is main religion.
Islam and Christianity are two duplicate routes to serve God..I believe Hinduisam is a straight way to serve Lord Allah..(Lord Shiva also)..
Even Islam is also considered as Hinduisam in all aspects...
Jainisam,Buddisam,Sikishm,Islam all are branches of a Tree Thet is Hinduisam
Posted by: Ali muhammud | 03/28/2010 at 09:40 PM
i respect ali muhammad,being a muslim he is accepting the true facts,which many muslims are not,i ask u ,ali muhammad "are u from pakistan",if u are, then my respect would be even much,i wish every muslim to be like him,then there would be no violence.
Posted by: shuvadip | 08/04/2010 at 08:50 PM
for -ali muhammad
i respect ur views,want to share with u my opinions,my e mail is shuva87@gmail.com
Posted by: shuvadip | 08/04/2010 at 08:53 PM
[this is good]
you told the trust sir!!! open your eyes mr.ahmed.... its not that we are opposing your religion!!!
its just that we are saying you the truth!!
no one is a born muslim.. when your family cuts your skin ... you become a muslim!!!
hope you verify it!!
if you people have ant doughts about it... its better you get into kabba and check!!~!
please konw how to accept the truth!! as allah says the same i guss!!
Posted by: nikitha reddy | 08/14/2010 at 09:16 PM
[this is good]
well ali muhammad and ol my freinds y r u guys getting so much worried about
Posted by: himanshu | 08/14/2010 at 10:48 PM
Hi Ali muhammad..
Posted by: SAchin Desai | 08/25/2010 at 10:11 AM
ali muhammad is the great and true muslim... hats off to you..
Posted by: SAchin Desai | 08/25/2010 at 10:14 AM